really scaring people, you know, that somehow the president had been part of bailing out chrysler and gm and ordered to ship those jobs, and the production overseas to china. that was shall did -- and he got attacked by the republican papers in the state including the youngstown vindicater being indefensible. and i just think it had to be the product of, conclusion that the auto bailout really was a mountain too high for him to climb. and they had to somehow destroy booma's credibility. >> woodruff: and the romney campaign is saying the ad is accurate, that it is factual. >> they seem to be the only ones though, to be honest saying that. and so one of the questions of the campaign is does that hurt. has anybody been hurt by doing a dishonest adment so far we haven't seen that much evidence. i do think there is some evidence that people are just getting sick of it they are saying this is the most dishonest race we've seen. so it is possible that some of the very early ads that obama ran against romney last summer could turn out to be the crucial things that turn the whole election, i thin